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Episode 48: Worker Bees
| 48: Worker Bees Release Date: February 18, 2008 Running Time: 100 min. Listen Now: Download: Enhanced Version - MP3 Version Subscribe via iTunes: Enhanced - MP3 See sidebar for other subscription options | ![]() |
Roll up your sleeves. Time to get your hands dirty. We chop wood and cut stone to build Kingsbridge Cathedral in Pillars of the Earth and send our swarms out to surround Queen bees in the strategy classic Hive.
News & Notes: On the Dot, Metropolys, Aquaretto, no more Talisman
The List: Hive, Pillars of the Earth
Name That Game: Win Knowbody Knows from Uncle Rez Games
Backshelf Spotlight: Torres, Iron Dragon
Truckloads of Goober: Fat Demons (Dicke Damonen)
Notes from the OCD: Build a database for your game collection
Mail Bag: Game Storm and MavenCon
Complete Show Notes continue after the break.
Game News & Notes
Metropolys Official Site | BGG Entry
The awe-inspiring Metropolys is in effervescence! Talented Urban planners and architects rival each other to make luxury, elegant buildings of glass and steel defying the laws of balance grow from the ground. Who will eventually impose their style to leave an indelible trail in the history of the city? The answer is in your hands!
On the Dot Official Site | BGG Entry
An American reprint of the French game, Vitrail. See spots like never before! In this amazing brainteaser, try to arrange four transparent squares so they perfectly match the pattern shown on the dots card. Flip, rotate, and overlap the squares to make a “spot on” copy. The challenge is to figure out how they all fit together. Play by yourself or race against others in a Dot-to-Dot Dash.
TransAmerica shifts to Immortal Eyes Imprint BGN Story
Heroscape shifts to Wizards of the Coast BGN Story
Games Workshop Abandons Board Games BGN Story
Hasbro buys Cranium Franchise for $77.5 M Reuters Story
The List
Hive Official Site | BGG entry
Hiveis a board-less, strategic game for 2 players ages 8 and up. The object of the game is to surround your opponent's queen bee while trying to block your opponent from doing the same to your queen bee. Each player has 11 tiles, all in all, representing 5 different insects. The players take turns, either choosing to add a tile to the hive or moving a tile in the hive.
Pillars of the Earth Official Site | BGG entry
Prior Phillip of Kingsbridge has a glorious vision. To build the largest, most beautiful cathedral in England. To accomplish the task, Phillip recruits the most renowned builders in the country. However, the fate of the Cathedral is constantly threatened by all manner of catastrophes and oppositions. The Pillars of the Earth is based on Ken Follett's best-selling novel. Players join together to help build Kingsbridge Cathedral. Using your workmen and resources, you must wisely deploy assets to overcome unexpected difficulties and shortages to prove yourself the greatest builder of them all! Will your efforts be recognized when the Great Cathedral at Kingsbridge is complete?
Backshelf Spotlight
Mystery Connection Contest
Can you find a connection between these two games? We find a mystery connection each episode and challenge you, the listener, to hunt for it! Post your guesses to the Forum . Find the connection and you could win a pair of coveted custom Spiel Dice!
Congratulations to Bruno Depascale our winner for episode 42!
Torres BGG Entry | Official Site
A series of devastating tornadoes, unleashed by enemy mages in the recent war has left all the king’s castles in ruin. Only the foundations of these once magnificent monuments remain. He has charged his sons with rebuilding his castles and promised the throne to the one who can rebuild the tallest and largest castles. Each prince has 6 knights to supervise the building.
Iron Dragon BGG Entry | Official Site
Science, fantasy, and trains mix in the popular game of fun and finances, Iron Dragon. Players lay track across a mythical realm filled with wizards, elves, and rainbow bridges. Genetically-engineered dragons pull boxcars loaded with jewels, magical items, and other treasures from city to city. Dangerous jungles must be crossed, rivers forged, and orcs bribed, as players plan routes and amass money in an attempt to create a fantasy empire. There was an expansion published by Tom Wham (the designer) which is currently offered for sale only through his web site (scroll down half way to find it)
Truckloads of Goober
Fat Demons (Dicke Damonen) BGG Entry | Official Site
A bag of colored string and wooden pawns is all you need for a magical battle between ghosts and demons for control of the world.
Notes from the Obsessive Collector's Desk
Dave gives advice on setting up a database for you game collection. He's even willing to share his own database with you! Give him a week or two to make it presentable to the general public and we'll post it here for you to download. Believe me, it's worth the wait!
Mail Bag
Thanks to donors Ian "Canal Maniac" Fleming and Mark "Marathon Man" Weaver
Mark Santillo gave us some great info on GameStorm (March 28-30) a large regional game convention in the Portland Oregon metro area.
John Richard, a local listener and moderator on the GenCon forums, wnated us to know about MavenCon , coming up March 5-7 right here in Indianapolis
Errata
Jason Ober pointed out that in Pillars of the Earth the first player gets one opportunity per turn to toss a master builder back into the bag and redraw.
I'm sure there are some other goofs in there somewhere. Let us know if (when?) you find one!


















If you don't want to spend the money buying Access, and/or the time learning it, you can use HanDBase (www.ddhsoftware.com). It's a shareware program that is MUCH cheaper to purchase, is a relational database (sort of; close enough, anyway) that is very very simple to develop for and use, and can be used not only on the desktop but also on PDAs and many smartphones. I set up my own database tracking much of the same things you track (but definitely NOT everything). Check it out: http://www.ddhsoftware.com/gallery.html?show=number&record=2316&UID=/gal...
First, no apologies needed for lagging behind! Life is crazy, so the shows are here for you whenever you have the time.
On to your point about Philip
Admittedly, I have only played the game a few times and I have never had this situation come up early on. My only strategy thought is couldn't you and your fellow players make an effort to keep the person with Philip from getting this bonus every round? Sure, it may mean you have to expend a master builder token when you have other plans for it, but seems like this strategy might help balance the card's effect on the game.
Hey Snooze, your gamelog is very cool! Thanks for sharing.
There were a bunch of players at MittenCon with their own forms of game logs, recording lots of stuff after every game played. I must admit it was a new experience to me, since I've never had the impulse to record anything more than the fact that each game we own will (we hope) eventually hit the table. Now that being said, I can see how it would be fun to track more specific information over time and you've done a great job of putting that information out ina way that is easy to decipher. I'm not sure I am wired to be dilligent enough to make my playing information interesting or useful, but I am lucky enough to have Mr. OCD as a partner-in-crime! Heh. Especially if he already has something like your form, I can totally see him geeking out on it. :)
Dave was pulling his hair out (heh) trying to figure out how to post the pics in Access. If only he had known about this app. Seems like a great plugin.
I shudder to think about Dave loose in the world with his game database on a PDA! He'd be cataloging his game stuff all the time. :)
I have double checked our feeds (both enhanced and mp3) and I think everything is working as it should.
Perhaps your podcast settings in Itunes are configured in such a way that it has not checked for any new shows? I have my itunes set up to check once a day for new episodes of the shows I subscribe to. That said, it has been my experience that iTunes gets "tired" sometimes and if there is a longer gap between episodes, it will sometimes forget to check for new content. Since we had such a gap with our Winter Break, perhaps your iTunes has decided not to check for new stuff any more. Right click on The Spiel's listing in your iTunes and select Update Podcast and see if that shakes the program out of its slumber.
Let me know what you find out and by all means if anyone else is having problems, let me know, too!
It's definitely good to be back. Dave and I are already hunkered down planning some great stuff for the rest of the year and we can hardly wait. Woo!
Thanks for reporting in on the feed issue as well. Chime in, the rest of you, especially if you're having issues.
The Spiel played really loud would NOT be a good idea. Unless it's Dave playing the trumpet!
I'd encourage you to play both games in their physical face-to-face iterations as well. Not to overplay the impact of goober on a game, but with both these titles there's really an added level of pleasure and fun derived from the great chunky pieces in Hive and the masterful board design with its cube and builder management in Pillars.
I don't see any problem with playing games online, especially ones about which you might be on the fence. Doesn't seem like a cop out to me. If anything I think the number of games I would want to purchase would most likely go up from having had good experiences online. For every one I might reject, there's probably three or four waiting to add to The List. Dang!
My big problem (if you can call it that) is I have the luxury to play games so often with friends face to face and it leaves scarce time for online play. And before someone reminds me, I know, I know one of my resolutions is to get into at least a few online games over the course of the year. I am certain that I would take full advantage of more online play if I wasn't so lucky. In the meantime, I'll try to troll around BSW and some of the other sites as my schedul permits.
Thanks J Moody! We love doing the show but the break was a welcome respite, too, especially after the crazy marathon. Nothing half measure with us, by jove!
I think one of Hive's strongest points is how much it can appeal to a wide range of players both in terms of age and experience. Since it shares mechanics with chess (piece X moves this way), and there are less types of pieces and the game plays so quickly, I can imagine a lot of kids would really respond to the game. You'll have to let us know how it goes.
Yeah, apologies if the 14 steps of Phase 3 in Pillars were clear as mud on the show! Until I sat down and tried to describe it, I didn't realize how integral the board is to understanding the flow of the game. At least with the enhanced version, you can see the areas of the board as I mention them. One of the motives behind tackling some video content is to be able to pick and choose which games suit which media type for what we do.
It's surely not a gateway game but it's only one rung up the ladder because the rules and board mesh together so well. It deserves high marks and any awards it can gather.
Welcome aboard, Greg! And thanks for the kudos.
You're getting into our territory with your collection of 600. Cool! How long is your unplayed list? Be honest! :) Dave has had a few things come up at work which are real time-sucks for the next week or so, but after that I'm sure he'll finish putting the final coat of polish on the database. I'll certainly post a note in the fourms when it is available.
If all goes well, we may have our hands on several Mosquitos very soon. John Yianni, the deisgner of Hive, sent me an email and wants to send us some tiles are prizes. How cool is that? You'll have to listen close to Name That Game contests in the coming months. :)
Odd, I tell you, very odd! I have downloaded the enhanced version twice now and both versions have the pictures. I have had a couple other reports from listeners this week that back catalog episodes are downloading but with no sound. Huh? So far I have yet to replicate either of these problems, so the only advice I can give at this point is to try downloading the episode again. Perhaps the server was bottlenecked and something crazy happeed. Please let me know if anyone else is having similar problems! Within the next month, I will probably be moving the Spiel media files to a different service and I hope these quasi-random problems go away.
You'll probably have to add some tables or fields for a detailed play log but Dave's database would definitely give you a hug head start on keeping track of your collection.